GW + Vista? - Guild Wars Forums

Lloyd6770 · Jul 25, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

I am in the market for a new laptop, and have been talkin to some people at the local comp store, and they aren't 100% sure that Guild Wars will run on Vista. Does anyone have any experience with Guild Wars + Vista?

Malice Black · Jul 26, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

GW+Vista = Happy gaming

Vista only causes problems with older games.

Lloyd6770 · Jul 26, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Ok, they were fairly sure that it would be ok, but I didn't want to drop $1,000 for a laptop that didn't play Guild Wars. Do you know anything about the graphics card being able to handle Guild Wars. I was told that Guild Wars looks for a 3d Accelerator/graphics card plug in, which new computers don't have. Can anyone tell me what kind of problems I might run into?

CyberMesh0 · Jul 26, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30

I agree with Malice Black, I run Vista HP and GW runs like a dream. (with a good graphics card, of course :-p)

Hyper.nl · Jul 26, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44

It runs but I have considerable performance drops. It's probably something in my config because it seems to work fine for many others.

(My config: AMD Athlon64 x2 4800, 2 GB DDR, nVidia Geforce 7800GT 256MB, SB X-Fi ExtremeMusic.)

Less Heroic · Jul 26, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I have Guild Wars Factions and it run very well.

Arcane_Penguin · Jul 26, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

I ahve vista, works fine with the game, but I'll say this, I would buy an XP for gaming untill vista's bugs are fixed, vista only works with the latest games, and still only some of them. It likes to BSOD on you or crash all the time with games/programs older then a year or so.

Lonesamurai · Jul 26, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Arcane_Penguin

I ahve vista, works fine with the game, but I'll say this, I would buy an XP for gaming untill vista's bugs are fixed, vista only works with the latest games, and still only some of them. It likes to BSOD on you or crash all the time with games/programs older then a year or so.

complete crap...

the only thing i've had vista BSOD on was my webcam when Msn tried to access it and thats it... I can play all my old game (down to 16bit games anyway) and i actually get better framerates out of my machine thatn I did under XP thanks to the dual core optimization and the better use of the Direct X API's under DX10

Winstar · Jul 26, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22

Just to add to the heap, I've had no trouble with GW+Vista on my new laptop. Also runs back to Baldurs gate 2 for me...but thats as far back as I went.

Yanman.be · Jul 26, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

The only game I can't run is Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault. There's probably a fix for it(my friends can run it ), but I'm too lazy.

Arcane_Penguin · Jul 26, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

Zone alarm made my vista comp go into a BSOD loop, restart, BSOD, restart, BSOD, i sat and watched. had to start in safe mode and remove ZA.

Many of my old games and modtools (1-2 years old) don't work due to the OS, many other programs (like free firewalls and the like) arn't vista combatable or BSOD it (like ZA) my 3d modeling program which i spent $7000 AUD on has minor problems with the VISTA interfaces/themes. etc

I only keep my vista because the games and programs to be released in the future should be vista combatable and will need a good comp to run, untill then I have my 5 year old XP home edition tower linked to my new mouse/keyboard/monitor with a KVM for all my old games/programs/anything else that spits out fire at Vista.

Commander Ryker · Jul 26, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

I recently, within the last 2 months bought a laptop and put XP on it. As long as vista has the problems with mp3's, I will never use it.

Commander Ryker · Jul 26, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

I got a new laptop in May and had XP put on it. New windows OS's always have problems so it's usually a good idea not to use them until the bugs are worked out. Also, until Vista changes the whole MP3 thing, I will never use it.

Lloyd6770 · Jul 26, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Ok, so it looks like VIsta + Guild Wars is fine. I'm still not sure what kind of video card to look for, or if I should just get a gaming laptop, not an "all around" kind of laptop. Thanks for all your input guys.

Lonesamurai · Jul 26, 2007, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

I recently, within the last 2 months bought a laptop and put XP on it. As long as vista has the problems with mp3's, I will never use it.

Again, utter crap...

What problem with MP3's? I currently have 125Gb of MP3's on my PC and run a radio station from it and i have no issues with them what so ever, i can burn, rip, send to friends and I have no issues with DRM because I clicked the "Do you want to protect your music" button to off...

Again, misinformation through the media has people thinking and saying things that just aren't correct

immortius · Jul 26, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

complete crap...

the only thing i've had vista BSOD on was my webcam when Msn tried to access it and thats it... I can play all my old game (down to 16bit games anyway) and i actually get better framerates out of my machine thatn I did under XP thanks to the dual core optimization and the better use of the Direct X API's under DX10

Well, while your acting as the voice of vista, I'll point out that DirectX 10 only really helps directX 10 games, and currently those few games that do support DirectX 10 don't make very good use of it (and drivers are still being optimised for it).

That aside I generally agree with you - Vista isn't all doom and gloom. It is general a nice OS. The issues come from:
* still developing driver support (not so bad by now though, I guess)
* Microsoft Live service charging to play with your friends
* 64bit Vista not allowing uncertified drivers
* the question of how badly Microsoft are going to screw over consumers and hardware manufacturers trying to implement their premium content protection system that will undoubtedly fail to work in the end - although that is mostly a question for the future.

Omega X · Jul 26, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by immortius

Well, while your acting as the voice of vista, I'll point out that DirectX 10 only really helps directX 10 games, and currently those few games that do support DirectX 10 don't make very good use of it (and drivers are still being optimised for it).

That aside I generally agree with you - Vista isn't all doom and gloom. It is general a nice OS. The issues come from:
* still developing driver support (not so bad by now though, I guess)
* Microsoft Live service charging to play with your friends
* 64bit Vista not allowing uncertified drivers
* the question of how badly Microsoft are going to screw over consumers and hardware manufacturers trying to implement their premium content protection system that will undoubtedly fail to work in the end - although that is mostly a question for the future.

In order:

- Drivers are pretty good. Some hardware manufacturers are still tweaking however.

- I suggest you read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Windows_-_LIVE

- That is a manufacturer's issue mostly. But there is a workaround patch that someone created for unsigned drivers.

- The premium content thing was demanded by the media conglomerates and can be gotten around a number of ways. Proven by hackers as usual with DRM protection. (The Windows Meda format was cracked again just last week.) Bill Gates himself even said that DRM was a burden. But in order to play ball, a compromise had to be met.

tijo · Jul 27, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Vista and GW should run fine. Just keep in mind that Vista requires more resources than XP. So trying to run Vista on something less than 1GB RAM isn't a very good idea if you intend to play games. As for the video card, GW runs fine on GMAs 950 under XP, don't know about vista though. If you go with an intel GMA, don't expect anything fancy in terms of graphics. There are some pretty decent laptop video cards. The GeForce Go 7600 is decent, anything equivalent or above that will run GW with all bells and whistles with decent fps.

Arcane_Penguin · Jul 27, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

*labels Lonesamurai a vista fanboy*

but then, its not fair, so far i've only ranted against vista lol.

*labels self opposite of fanboy what ever its called, i forgot lol*

Arcane_Penguin · Jul 27, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

*labels Lonesamurai a vista fanboy*

but then, its not fair, so far i've only ranted against vista lol.

*labels self opposite of fanboy what ever its called, i forgot lol*

Jul 25, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42	#1
Lloyd6770 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: One Profession: W/	GW + Vista? I am in the market for a new laptop, and have been talkin to some people at the local comp store, and they aren't 100% sure that Guild Wars will run on Vista. Does anyone have any experience with Guild Wars + Vista?

Jul 26, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#2
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	GW+Vista = Happy gaming Vista only causes problems with older games. __________________ Old Skool '05

Jul 26, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#3
Lloyd6770 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: One Profession: W/	Ok, they were fairly sure that it would be ok, but I didn't want to drop $1,000 for a laptop that didn't play Guild Wars. Do you know anything about the graphics card being able to handle Guild Wars. I was told that Guild Wars looks for a 3d Accelerator/graphics card plug in, which new computers don't have. Can anyone tell me what kind of problems I might run into?

Jul 26, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30	#4
CyberMesh0 Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: N/Me	I agree with Malice Black, I run Vista HP and GW runs like a dream. (with a good graphics card, of course :-p)

Jul 26, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44	#5
Hyper.nl Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood Profession: E/	It runs but I have considerable performance drops. It's probably something in my config because it seems to work fine for many others. (My config: AMD Athlon64 x2 4800, 2 GB DDR, nVidia Geforce 7800GT 256MB, SB X-Fi ExtremeMusic.)

Jul 26, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04	#6
Less Heroic Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: House zu Helter, Echovald Forest, Cantha Guild: The Heroic Brotherhood [HeRo] Profession: W/R	I have Guild Wars Factions and it run very well.

Jul 26, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10	#7
Arcane_Penguin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Land Downunder Guild: The Shadowheart Vanguard Profession: R/Mo	I ahve vista, works fine with the game, but I'll say this, I would buy an XP for gaming untill vista's bugs are fixed, vista only works with the latest games, and still only some of them. It likes to BSOD on you or crash all the time with games/programs older then a year or so.

Jul 26, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22	#9
Winstar Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London	Just to add to the heap, I've had no trouble with GW+Vista on my new laptop. Also runs back to Baldurs gate 2 for me...but thats as far back as I went.

Jul 26, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48	#10
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	The only game I can't run is Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault. There's probably a fix for it(my friends can run it ), but I'm too lazy.

Jul 26, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#11
Arcane_Penguin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Land Downunder Guild: The Shadowheart Vanguard Profession: R/Mo	Zone alarm made my vista comp go into a BSOD loop, restart, BSOD, restart, BSOD, i sat and watched. had to start in safe mode and remove ZA. Many of my old games and modtools (1-2 years old) don't work due to the OS, many other programs (like free firewalls and the like) arn't vista combatable or BSOD it (like ZA) my 3d modeling program which i spent $7000 AUD on has minor problems with the VISTA interfaces/themes. etc I only keep my vista because the games and programs to be released in the future should be vista combatable and will need a good comp to run, untill then I have my 5 year old XP home edition tower linked to my new mouse/keyboard/monitor with a KVM for all my old games/programs/anything else that spits out fire at Vista.

Jul 26, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#12
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	I recently, within the last 2 months bought a laptop and put XP on it. As long as vista has the problems with mp3's, I will never use it.

Jul 26, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03	#13
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	I got a new laptop in May and had XP put on it. New windows OS's always have problems so it's usually a good idea not to use them until the bugs are worked out. Also, until Vista changes the whole MP3 thing, I will never use it.

Jul 26, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17	#14
Lloyd6770 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: One Profession: W/	Ok, so it looks like VIsta + Guild Wars is fine. I'm still not sure what kind of video card to look for, or if I should just get a gaming laptop, not an "all around" kind of laptop. Thanks for all your input guys.

Jul 27, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58	#18
tijo Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montreal Guild: [CDDR] Profession: R/	Vista and GW should run fine. Just keep in mind that Vista requires more resources than XP. So trying to run Vista on something less than 1GB RAM isn't a very good idea if you intend to play games. As for the video card, GW runs fine on GMAs 950 under XP, don't know about vista though. If you go with an intel GMA, don't expect anything fancy in terms of graphics. There are some pretty decent laptop video cards. The GeForce Go 7600 is decent, anything equivalent or above that will run GW with all bells and whistles with decent fps.

Jul 27, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#19
Arcane_Penguin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Land Downunder Guild: The Shadowheart Vanguard Profession: R/Mo	labels Lonesamurai a vista fanboy but then, its not fair, so far i've only ranted against vista lol. labels self opposite of fanboy what ever its called, i forgot lol

Jul 27, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05	#20
Arcane_Penguin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Land Downunder Guild: The Shadowheart Vanguard Profession: R/Mo	labels Lonesamurai a vista fanboy but then, its not fair, so far i've only ranted against vista lol. labels self opposite of fanboy what ever its called, i forgot lol